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#1 Kim-Lan

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 02:17 AM

What do you think is the best language I can learn to form my website?

I'm somewhat a beginner in website making. I currently know HTML/ XHTML and are learning PHP. I have an idea for my website, but I want to know how I can make my website better than average before I start developing it.

I've been thinking that PHP is a good language to use, but I don't know that much about it.

Please post your thoughts on the subject.

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE(Kim-Lan @ Feb 27 2008, 08:17 PM) View Post
What do you think is the best language I can learn to form my website?

I'm somewhat a beginner in website making. I currently know HTML/ XHTML and are learning PHP. I have an idea for my website, but I want to know how I can make my website better than average before I start developing it.

I've been thinking that PHP is a good language to use, but I don't know that much about it.

Please post your thoughts on the subject.

Thanks! smile.gif



I don't know, but I'm a a newb at web development. But i would recommend html, xhtml, and especially css, and if you want, javascript. I don't know php yet, but I will soon, so I can make my site more secure, with a login or something. Here's my site to show you how html and css is all you really need smile.gif My website biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 09:57 PM

Once you know XHTML, CSS, Javascript, and possibly DHTML like the back of your eyelids, then go on to PHP. If you want to go hardcore, learn CGI.

W3schools is where you want to learn all this, btw.

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 12:44 AM

I already go to W3Schools to learn that stuff. They are awesome!

And, Evil Monkey, your website seems pretty good, probably still developing it though. I think you need to describe what your website is more in the homepage or else you won't draw in people.

I guess I'll just keep learning PHP then, I already know XHTML, CSS, and Javascript (sorta).

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 11:26 PM

In all honesty, the internet is sliding more and more toward flash-based webpages. I work as a web developer, and about 90% of my clients request flash work. I'd say learning that would be key.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 02:04 AM

I think I'll learn Flash once I have a stable website up. I'm not sure if it'll be too flashy, though. I guess I'll start out simple and work my way up.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:43 AM

What language to use depend totally on the semantics of your website. However, if you just want to learn stuff, you should check out as many things as possible. Try making a simple script with each one (usually 90% of the work is getting that first working site up).

For a personal site without any content engine, Flash can make a simple HTML/CSS site snazzy.
If you want to have some application in there, you can do PHP or ASP. ColdFusion is an option, but it doesn't play nicely with IIS 6! Use Apache!

If you're just learning, I suggest sticking with PHP, it's very easy and very useful.
ASP is, in my humble opinion, much more powerful, though.

A note on Flash: it looks amazing for simple sites. Doing a small site completely in Flash is feasible. Flash also works with databases, yay. However, if you wish to have a large-scale website, along the lines of an online business (like anything even remotely resembling Newegg), use ASP. You can still stick in Flash banners and buttons for decor.
If you're writing a backend for some content system, don't use Flash, that would be silly.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:37 PM

I would use aspx because it allows you to use two different programming languages, vb.net and c#.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:59 PM

I don't like Flash without a feasible substitute for when the visitor doesn't have Flash, because I support the 'Any Browser' campaign, and last time I checked, the Lynx browser[text-only] doesn't do flash wink.gif

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE(Wizard @ Mar 3 2008, 01:59 PM) View Post
I don't like Flash without a feasible substitute for when the visitor doesn't have Flash, because I support the 'Any Browser' campaign, and last time I checked, the Lynx browser[text-only] doesn't do flash wink.gif


I would like to accommodate for everyone, so I don't think I'll use Flash just yet. Maybe later if I choose to, with an alternative for those without Flash, of course.

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 09:18 PM

Honestly, accomodating for everybody is just... blech. Not my thing. From a business perspective (and yes, simple websites are best in Flash), a GOOD Flash site attracts about 1.5x the viewers, and works with 98% of today's internet surfers. You get more impressions that way than sticking with the "let's please everybody" approach.

That being said, I'd honestly go with PHP over ASP, just because ASP isn't as widely supported for hosting. I know ASP like the back of my hand, but I'm trying to focus most of my energy on PHP just becacause it's more accessible... and more versatile in a lot of applications.

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:03 PM

If you would prefer stunning animation and impressive interface, Flash would be best choice
or recently rising Silverlight from Microsoft.
But mind the size and the loading speed.
But normally, companies would always prefer PHP + MySQL + Apache
3 open source software and fast loading
Add in Javascript and CSS to impress browsers too!
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 02:50 PM

CSS and javascript will be a real plus to have in your toolbox. CSS makes it very easy to redesign the entire look of your web site with very little effort. javascript is widely used and will get the client side involved. You'll have to decide on your own if you want to go with php or asp/asp.NET. As some have already stated, php is OpenSource and freely available. This is a plus and you'll find help on the net and in forums. You can download Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2008 Express Edition for nothing from the microsoft site. I feel the tutorials and help included are excellent. In my opinion VB is one of the easiest languages to learn. My first programming language was Basic. I'm not into Flash, but JcX may talk me into it someday. wink.gif

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Posted 10 April 2008 - 02:08 PM

hi, meriadoc,
I'm still new to Flash, but the effects of Flash impressed me.
So I'll focus to learn in Flash.
Just hoping to find someone to learn together, across nationality would be great!

Javascript is the best client-side language indeed, while in my opinion, PHP would be the best server-side language
(because im using PHP and has totally no experience in ASP/JSP)
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:58 AM

yes i agree except i like total training learning video more,they have good ones for flash




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