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#1 mrj

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:58 AM

Hello,
I've seen the new fundraiser for sparkie server. Then I remember you were going to install a new windows server called lily. What happened to it? Is it aborted?

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 09:46 AM

It exists, it just can't see really stand alone because its feature-incomplete, so we never finished it. Most notably, we never developed the plugin for cpanel needed to connect it to Tommy (It needs a tommy account alongside it to make it useful). It also has zero user interface, and has security limitations that make doing a lot of the things you need to do to actually set up IIS applications impossible without having admin rights. IIS doesn't cater to a multiuser environment very well.

The server itself does exist, though it's being used as a VPS. http://lily.heliohost.org/

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 01:34 PM

That means we won't be able to use this server as we are using Tommy?

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 02:01 PM

That means we won't be able to use this server as we are using Tommy?

You can (by using HelioHost's VPS).

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 02:14 PM

Lily can be used alongside Tommy (in fact it has to be, you need an account on a cPanel server so the DNS entries can go somewhere). It actually works fine, the problem is there's no way for non-admins to actually control it at the moment. Here's a WordPress website that's currently hosted on Lily: http://www.acmine.net/

 

If you had an ASP.NET app that you needed to run that won't work on Mono, it's completely possible for me to host it there for you, but I'd have to set it up for you. The only access a regular user has is to upload files by FTP and edit their MySQL databases (Lily has MariaDB on it). I can also run RoR, Node.js, and random ad-hoc stuff on there (the Minecraft server for the above website is living on it right now).

 

Eventually there's going to be an SSH-based menu system that gives you a few options like changing your password and adding domains, but I haven't spent much time on it lately due to lack of demand.


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#6 mrj

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 04:29 PM

The site you mentioned is yours! ;)

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 05:13 PM

Well of course  :P 

 

I can definitely host oddball things on it for others, but I'd have to set things up manually for each person due to the lack of a user interface, which is why it's not promoted.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 07:25 PM

windows server called lily. What happened to it? Is it aborted?

We're still working on it. It takes a lot more work to set up than linux because we have to write everything ourselves. HelioHost moves pretty slow sometimes due to only having about 4 active admins and almost 13,000 users. Keeping what we've got maintained and functional is a higher priority than developing new features. I do hope to offer windows hosting some day, but like wolstech says

IIS doesn't cater to a multiuser environment very well.


The thing the last fundraiser did was purchase network attached storage. We have 8 TB of storage, in a raid to prevent data loss, that we can use now. With that server, which we named nas0, has allowed us to stop deleting old accounts, start allowing new accounts on Tommy again, create Lily, create all of the VPS that we sell, and a lot more.

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 05:13 AM

Keeping heliohost stable is a lot better than having an account on lily. Thanks to admins. I love heliohost as much you do. ❤




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